Comments on: Special Guest Enemy: Red Cup Rebellion http://www.thewareaglereader.com/2009/10/special-guest-enemy-red-cup-rebellion/ Auburn's Daily Meta-Memoir Sat, 11 Feb 2012 02:45:15 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Samuel Irk http://www.thewareaglereader.com/2009/10/special-guest-enemy-red-cup-rebellion/comment-page-1/#comment-2569 Samuel Irk Sat, 14 Nov 2009 00:12:53 +0000 http://www.thewareaglereader.com/?p=5041#comment-2569 Exactly what I was thinking, thanks for putting this web page together. Exactly what I was thinking, thanks for putting this web page together.

]]> By: Friday preview: Ole Miss | The War Eagle Reader http://www.thewareaglereader.com/2009/10/special-guest-enemy-red-cup-rebellion/comment-page-1/#comment-2026 Friday preview: Ole Miss | The War Eagle Reader Fri, 30 Oct 2009 20:59:32 +0000 http://www.thewareaglereader.com/?p=5041#comment-2026 [...] are a little vaguer, but 10 wins and berth in the Cap One is still very much in play–and as we learned first-hand this week here at WBE, that would make for one hell of a season for the Rebels, SEC West title or not.  A loss to a [...] [...] are a little vaguer, but 10 wins and berth in the Cap One is still very much in play–and as we learned first-hand this week here at WBE, that would make for one hell of a season for the Rebels, SEC West title or not.  A loss to a [...]

]]> By: WarBlogEagle http://www.thewareaglereader.com/2009/10/special-guest-enemy-red-cup-rebellion/comment-page-1/#comment-1998 WarBlogEagle Thu, 29 Oct 2009 22:38:16 +0000 http://www.thewareaglereader.com/?p=5041#comment-1998 WDEwg, I'd say Juco is making the point that Ole Miss (and Arkansas, since we're talking about Nutt) isn't able to recruit themselves into the kind of program 'Bama or Florida or pre-2009 Georgia might be, where they can take wins over the middle-tier programs of the SEC almost for granted. Nutt's been able to put together some terrific teams, but he's saying that putting together a juggernaut that can mow down the South Carolinas, 2007 Auburns, etc. of the league isn't really possible at those schools ... and so Nutt gets blamed for "letdowns" that are more a function of the schools he's recruiting to, and the strength of the league, than any actual weakness in his coaching. I mostly agree with that--though much like Tubby I still think there's been a few head-scratchers with Nutt over the years that aren't that easily explained. As for the comparison with Auburn, I think his comment is more big-picture--Ole Miss and Arkansas are always going to struggle with depth--whereas mine on Auburn's is small-picture, i.e. this particular Auburn team is struggling with depth. If you try to make the comparison this year, it doesn't hold at all--Ole Miss's starting lineup, at least, is loaded (there can't be more than 2-3 current Auburn starters outside the offensive line that would start for the Rebels, sad to say) and if they don't have nearly as much second-string power as a 'Bama or LSU, they've still got way more in 2009 than Auburn's got. WDEwg, I’d say Juco is making the point that Ole Miss (and Arkansas, since we’re talking about Nutt) isn’t able to recruit themselves into the kind of program ‘Bama or Florida or pre-2009 Georgia might be, where they can take wins over the middle-tier programs of the SEC almost for granted. Nutt’s been able to put together some terrific teams, but he’s saying that putting together a juggernaut that can mow down the South Carolinas, 2007 Auburns, etc. of the league isn’t really possible at those schools … and so Nutt gets blamed for “letdowns” that are more a function of the schools he’s recruiting to, and the strength of the league, than any actual weakness in his coaching. I mostly agree with that–though much like Tubby I still think there’s been a few head-scratchers with Nutt over the years that aren’t that easily explained.

As for the comparison with Auburn, I think his comment is more big-picture–Ole Miss and Arkansas are always going to struggle with depth–whereas mine on Auburn’s is small-picture, i.e. this particular Auburn team is struggling with depth. If you try to make the comparison this year, it doesn’t hold at all–Ole Miss’s starting lineup, at least, is loaded (there can’t be more than 2-3 current Auburn starters outside the offensive line that would start for the Rebels, sad to say) and if they don’t have nearly as much second-string power as a ‘Bama or LSU, they’ve still got way more in 2009 than Auburn’s got.

]]> By: WDEwg http://www.thewareaglereader.com/2009/10/special-guest-enemy-red-cup-rebellion/comment-page-1/#comment-1994 WDEwg Thu, 29 Oct 2009 20:38:25 +0000 http://www.thewareaglereader.com/?p=5041#comment-1994 Jerry- -copying from above: The truth is that Ole Miss just can’t consistently compete. Right now, we have some solid starters. We have a few players in the two-deep who aren’t significant drop-offs. However, all of our offensive line backups leave us praying that no one gets hurt. In a situation like that, where you’re essentially unable to consistently recruit quality depth, any coach will falter every now and then. I'm not saying that the "unable to consistently recruit quality depth" applies, but doesn't the rest of his assertion about Ole Miss sorta sound like what you were saying yesterday? Jerry- -copying from above:

The truth is that Ole Miss just can’t consistently compete. Right now, we have some solid starters. We have a few players in the two-deep who aren’t significant drop-offs. However, all of our offensive line backups leave us praying that no one gets hurt. In a situation like that, where you’re essentially unable to consistently recruit quality depth, any coach will falter every now and then.

I’m not saying that the “unable to consistently recruit quality depth” applies, but doesn’t the rest of his assertion about Ole Miss sorta sound like what you were saying yesterday?

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